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Well, it’s that time of year again so I thought I’d pull an oldey but a goody out……..

Here ya go….

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The Jedi Error is a concept to me for the last couple years, ever since my visit to Emergent’s Summer Institute. While it originally was a sermon, I also turned it into a blog. You can read more about it there but the basic principle is taking one of the positive elements of Emergent, having conversations, and calling to the ultra conservatives that they could learn from this. Often, the ultra conservative church is not the best at letting people struggle, doubt, and ask questions without judgement. I believe the Word of God and the leading of the Holy Spirit (not one or the other) are strong enough to handle our struggles so we don’t need to be scared to enter into the muck together. Struggle through any situation in the light of the Word and you will be a more loving and stronger person for it.

OK, that said, I have an update on this topic that saddens me. As I continue to talk with people within the Emergent community, read writings of leading voices in the Emergent community, and study more of the latest books and events of Emergent, I must say it appears that Emergent is losing the art of the one main thing I loved about them. The conversation circle appears to be smaller and smaller to only include people that agree with them and becoming more hostile to those who do not.

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OK, this is where I will get myself in trouble. Yes, I get some spirited talk when I talk about my concerns within Emergent but I take real, local hits whenever I dive into the “Too Conservative” topic. I take a risk that some in my home town will see me as watering down their understanding of the Word. Not that I haven’t been talked about or talked at before but it’s always a different twist when it’s local instead of abroad.

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Hey all, I’m back with part two of a who knows how long series of blogs on my visit with Solomon’s Porch and Emergent’s Summer Institute a few years back. This visit served as my introduction to Emergent as I described in the first blog a few days back.

For this post, I want to dive into my conversations on the topic of homosexuality. Now before I get too far, I want to say up front to my ultra conservative friends and my emergent friends that my moderate view on this topic will probably not be what you wish my belief to be. On other forums, I have taken hits from both sides not happy with my stance. I can live with that, however, I believe my position is founded in Biblical truth and love in how I carry myself in that conviction. I won’t spend a lot of time describing all of my thoughts on this topic as you can find it in the blog entitled homosexuality if you wish. For the sake of this blog, let’s just now that my belief that there is a sinful element to homosexuality made me seem like “ultra conservative boy” at the Summer Institute.

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For those who have been around awhile, you have been subjected to my endless ramblings on the Emergent community, emerging church, conservative church and the like. Not just on this site, but in other on-line communities I am involved in. My on-going conversation about the dangerous teachings of the leading voices of Emergent and the concern of the non-loving bashing way that ultra conservatives can act that fuel the flame sometimes.

However, I have come across a book that nails the topic better than any of my feeble attempts called “Why We’re Not Emergent (By two Guys Who Should Be). This book is a great introduction into the conversation that is a must read on any list.

The only thing I would prefer in the book that the introduction promised I would not find is the lack of addressing the difference of Emergent the group and the concept of emerging churches. I still see a very distinct difference between the two while also conceding that there are sweeping similarities. I was afraid the book would throw all emerging churches under the bus as I have seen done before.

My fears were quickly dismissed as I continued to read the book. I agree that trying to address that minor point would be too difficult to dance around instead of focusing on the real topics at hand. The book is a true balance of truth and love with a little fun mixed in to boot.

I know many of you have two or three books going at a given time so I don’t mean to add on. However, my suggestion is this, unless that book is the Bible, put it down for another day and dive into this. Great book!

Get it here! 

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There was a website that I stop by from time to time called www.extremetheology.com. As I went through some recent posts, I found one by Chris Rosebrough that I took note of and was encouraged by called “with gentleness and respect”. To understand why it spoke to me, you need to know a little more.

Saddleback church, led by Rick Warren, recently had a Purpose Driven Life conference as they have had before. This time, Chris was invited (from my understanding) all expenses paid because their website have had some concerns with Rick and his ministry.  There have been many allegations about Rick (from multiple sources) including that he preaches a watered down gospel, that he preaches a false gospel, and all the way up to he’s a false prophet using the Purpose Driven Church model to invade and destroy the church.

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“To me, the church should not aim to be ‘real’ as an end. The church is there to proclaim truth. Trying to be hip and cool and real does a disservice to the church. We’re not called to be successful. We’re called to be obedient, even if they don’t come…. If somebody doesn’t find you objectionable, I wonder if you’re preaching the full counsel of God.”

James Gilmore is co-author of Authenticity: What Consumers Really Want (Harvard Business School Press, 2007).

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