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Um, how to start this review. Well, um, “Finding our way again” is the wrong way. How’s that to cover the jist of it?

I admit, I am not a Brian Mclaren fan but I have some people I respect that like him so I wanted to give him another look. Also, I have tried a couple of the books in the “The Ancient Practices” series and have found them to be…. well….um…. lacking. However, why not give it another look? This book was my answer to this question.

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OK, with my normal book reviews I have to do the whole legal thing of saying I got this book for free in exchange for a review. Not so this time, I had the get the book all on my own (what’s up with that Mr. Kluck?) and then I decided to do a review.

Kinda Christianity is a tongue in cheek, sarcastic little book that is a play off of Brain Mclaren’s book “A New Kind of Christianity”. If you are looking for a book that debates the points Mr. Mclaren made in his book, this is not it. If you’re looking for a book that digs into the theology of Emergent verses the traditional Christian standard, keep looking (Maybe towards “Why We’re Not Emergent by the same author). If you’re looking for a funny take on the stereotypes with Emergent’s loudest voices that bust through the smoke screen of defenses to deflect from the errors with the Emergent movement….. one that will make you laugh and say “That’s not right….” at the same time….. BINGO! You found it!

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ted kluck colorOK, Ted might not be comfortable with my blog title but I think he’ll forgive me anyways.

Last week, I was blessed to be able to host Christian and sports author, Ted Kluck into our little town. I first came across Ted when reading the book he co-authored called “Why We’re Not Emergent by Two Guys Who Should Be” with his friend and pastor, Kevin DeYoung. The book really captured my attention due to my history with and interest with the challenges of the Emergent church. They do a great job of surfing through the multiple authors of the Emergent movement and address many theological issues that need checked and addressed.

From there, I continued to touch base with Ted through his blog, Ted Wins a Blog. His CCM Smackdowns are still the funniest thing I have seen in a long time (a fresh batch are waiting for me when I get some free time)!

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Moody Publishing Author
Ted Kluck is coming to Marion!

Thursday, 8/20/09

Book Signing at The Shepherd’s Nook
316 McMahan Blvd
(Next to Kohl’s in Marion)
3:00pm – 4:30pm

Speaking Engagment at The Shepherd’s Fellowship
1647 Marion-Marysville Road
(State Route 4 just south of Barks Road in Marion)
7:00pm

Both events are FREE.
There will be a love gift offering taken at the speaking engagment

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OK, I said in an earlier post that I was taking a break from addressing frustrations in the “Emergent” camp. That lasted a couple days.

I came across a youtube video where Doug Pagitt offers some “reflection” on the terms emergence, Emergent, and the emerging church. You can view it here…

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I don’t know a lot about Scott McKnight but after reading his latest post (recommended by taddelay, a blogger I casually follow and has posted here before), I want to know a little bit more about him. It appears that he and Dan Kimball (one of the only ones in the “Emergent” movement that I have liked some of his writings) are doing some new things together. I have plenty of more research to do there of course.

Anyways, this lead to another blog which was a response from Tony Jones (an “Emergent” leader who I have not been impressed with in much of any way at all).

In this blog, Tony joins Scott in their disregard for titles such as emergent and emerging. That titles mean nothing and what matters is the heart of any of these discussions.

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I want to put out an invite to you if you have any interest on some of the topics I babble about. I want to invite you to check out the discussion boards of Revolution. I have no affiliation with the Revolution church. A matter of fact, I agree with some of their stands, not of their others, and have never been to any of their churches.

However, hardly any one on this discussion board has any affiliation with Revolution. It is just different people from different areas talking about all kinds of issues. When it comes to labels, we are a full house (Conservative, liberals, homosexual, straight, Christians, seekers, and the like). While we do have are occasional goof, overall, this is the one place I have found were you can talk through struggles and differences in love without the muck and mire of everywhere else. I have been part of this community for a year and a half now and have been blessed by my friends there.

If anyone from Rev is reading this, know this…I am in your debt. I am thankful for all the discussion, instruction, and love that I have found there as one of the token conservatives. Many of you have become vital friends and mentors to me and I pray I have blessed you in some meager way. Thank you my friends……

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The Jedi Error is a concept to me for the last couple years, ever since my visit to Emergent’s Summer Institute. While it originally was a sermon, I also turned it into a blog. You can read more about it there but the basic principle is taking one of the positive elements of Emergent, having conversations, and calling to the ultra conservatives that they could learn from this. Often, the ultra conservative church is not the best at letting people struggle, doubt, and ask questions without judgement. I believe the Word of God and the leading of the Holy Spirit (not one or the other) are strong enough to handle our struggles so we don’t need to be scared to enter into the muck together. Struggle through any situation in the light of the Word and you will be a more loving and stronger person for it.

OK, that said, I have an update on this topic that saddens me. As I continue to talk with people within the Emergent community, read writings of leading voices in the Emergent community, and study more of the latest books and events of Emergent, I must say it appears that Emergent is losing the art of the one main thing I loved about them. The conversation circle appears to be smaller and smaller to only include people that agree with them and becoming more hostile to those who do not.

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Well, I covered the two main issues I noticed the week I spent with Doug Pagitt, Solomon’s Porch, and Emergent. So now, onto a minor. Now this topic will have to do more with Doug Pagitt who is one of the leading voices of Emergent than Emergent as a whole.

I know several who care more about debating some of this stuff out will want to debate the history of preaching and it’s role in the church. Some may even be tempted to start a campaign about how too many churches worship the pastor over God and this needs called out. This is not what this blog is about. It is some observations that due to the above stated concerns, some may rebel to the far other opposite to where they also offer a negative output.

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